Join Maddy and Winnie in conversation with Saul Isbister and Katia Schwartz from Touching Base as they explore intimacy, disability and sex work.
Drawing on lived experience and decades of advocacy, Saul and Katia explore the intersection of disability and sex work, challenging common misconceptions while unpacking the stigma, discrimination and barriers experienced across both communities. Hear Katia reflect on her experiences as a deaf, disabled sex worker, and Saul share how Touching Base has spent more than 25 years building understanding between the disability and sex work sectors through education, training and advocacy.
Together, they discuss why intimacy, pleasure, connection and bodily autonomy are fundamental to wellbeing, and how sex workers can support communication, consent, confidence and access for people with disability.
Saul and Katia leave listeners with a powerful reminder that genuine accessibility includes access and support to sexual expression, physical intimacy and the dignity to say yes.
This episode was recorded in September 2026
CONTENT WARNINGS: This episode references ableism, whorephobia and sexual abuse.
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References:
On The Couch episodes & resources mentioned:
More:
What We’re Reading: an online library of book recommendations
Play Safe: an online safe sex, STI testing and condom education resource for young people in NSW
Play Safe Pro: an online sexual health education resource for professionals who are working with young people in NSW
Sexual Health InfoLink: a sexual health nurse-led NSW Health Service including a free telephone line for health professionals and the general public
Credits
Host: Maddy Stratten & Winnie Adamson
Guest: Saul Isbister & Katia Schwartz
Producers: Maddy Stratten, Winnie Adamson & Diana Karamacoska
Live Technical Producers: Maddy Reid
Editing: Winnie Adamson
Music: Little Pastries Instrumental (descript)